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£80k Meeting the Rasni, All In flex option, More Stretch Goals
over 3 years ago
– Thu, Dec 08, 2022 at 02:21:17 PM
Hello Adventurers!
You did it again! £80k and at the time of writing over 1,000 backers. This is a huge boost for the project and helps us continue building Mor Nadar with you - thank you so much to everyone for your support!
I will attend fullyto the Lore post Campaign folks. We are doing everything we can to fully stretch to the new Stretch Goals revealed below for you as it will give you the final vision we have for the Novice Rank content. For now please forgive me for the succinct version -I will come back to this.
From Memf the Initiate and Envoy travel up the mighty Iteru to Gnimshkenka first home of the Gnimshka which exists deep between the mountain range that separates the Cold Lands in the north from the Warm Lands to the south. The Gnimshka are the most feared martial species on Mor Nadar. This reputations is justifiably deserved, their use of Petromagika (Gem Magic) and their retention of a permanent standing army comprising battalions of sarissa armed soldiers supported by mammoth sized Waradgers (War-Badgers), strikes fear into most nations. It was after all the Gnimshka who helped raise the siege of Dun Mordhain and enforce the Treaty of the Peoples which stopped the Newcomer conquest two years ago.
At Gnimshkenka the Master Glyptographers shed light on a place far to the south of them. An old Brethren mining city long abandoned which the miners joking called Deepsorrow. They believe this mining settlement may hold the clue to the whereabouts of Dip'Sa'Ra.
The Glyptographers recently sent two expeditions to Gnimshkenka, the first comprising an Engineer and a junior Glyptographer. Nothing has been heard from this expedition since. The second expedition left fairly recently and comprised a Gnimshka Stonescout and an Apothecary from the Persi culture who seek to know more and perhaps aid the first expedition if possible.
Designers note - much of this will become clearer when you play Deepsorrow, I am trying to avoid spoilers! Note the second expedition comprises the two heroes from the Potions & Preparations pack.
You exit the great city of Gnimshkenka via the eastern gate and travel down the river through the lush fertile lands farmed by the Gnimshka and their human neighbours to the east, the Rasni.
I'll cover off more about the Rasni in due course. For now let me share the Deathdancer's Helm card with you. We're giving you more ways to grab some armour and help yourself in combat! Remember one of the key changes to the new rules is the ability to inflict Conditions on Creatures too, you asked for that after the first campaign, now you can strike fear into the heart of your enemies.
Weeping Caves Enhanced Edition
We're so delighted that you will all benefit from the cards in the new edition. I said I would share the box image when it was ready - here you go!
Booster pack nomenclature.
I appreciate that Novice Booster pack 1,2, and 3 are in now in use. We will be adding a suitable change to each of their titles going forward to help people. From now on we will refer to them as:
Novice Booster 1 'The Alchemy, Druid & Treasure Booster'
Novice Booster 2 ' A Trove of Treasures Booster'
Novice Booster 3 'The Cryptic Collection'
All In pledge flex option
Note we were asked yesterday by backers on the non All In pledges if they could select the new Novice Booster 3 Set Add On (The Cryptic Collection) as their free choice from:
Novice Booster 1 'The Alchemy, Druid & Treasure Booster'
Novice Booster 3 'The Cryptic Collection'
Radiant Stones Dragon Dice
Umbral Stones Dragon Dice
Card Dividers
This seems like a reasonable request, we are therefore extending the principle to those of you on the All In Quest. If you want to drop your Radiant Stones benefit that you get for free as part of the pledge then you may select the new Novice Booster 3 'The Cryptic Collection' instead. We will attend to this in the pledge manager.
More Stretch Goals - the last part of the vision (for now)
We are pleased to announce another two stretch goals for the campaign:
£95k 2 more standalone adventures will be added to the Deepsorrow set, taking the total number of added Scenarios to 8 giving an additional 8-12 hours of gameplay.
If we can get raise £100k we will unlock the following Stretch Goal:
We will launch The Great Sewers Novice Set Enhanced Edition. It will be the sister product of the Weeping Caves Enhanced Edition. We will add a further 20% of cards to the Great Sewers set and tweak the box to create the Enhanced Edition.
We will also make all of the newly created cards available to everyone who has backed:
The Quest and New Content pledges (you will receive a card bundle just like the Weeping Caves Enhanced Edition).
The All In pledge, these cards will form part of the Great Sewers Enhanced Edition box you will receive.
Note we will also add these cards to Add On #1 the Upgrade Kit.
Please let me know if you have questions. We thank you for your support as we head towards the final hours.
Cheers
IG
£75k Double Unlock! Rulebook link. Tabletopia link. Plan for final Push
over 3 years ago
– Wed, Dec 07, 2022 at 04:12:31 AM
£75k reached - double unlock achieved!
Please note there is no lore in this update as there are a number of real world things about LU to cover.
We would sincerely like to thank each and every one of you for helping us reach this crucial part of the campaign. We will keep fighting the fight and do our best to continue stretching out more benefits for you in the remaining hours.
Unlock 1: You did it, you helped us break through £75k. Thank you! We will now be adding 2 new standalone Adventures to the Deepsorrow set taking the total number of added Scenarios to 4. That's another 4 to 6 hours of gameplay in that set!
Unlock 2:
Wonderful stuff! By reaching £75k you have helped us create the Weeping Caves Enhanced Edition - I know I say it a lot but it is absolutely genuine - thank you!
We can go back to the set that started it all off and add in a few little 'Designer Cuts' items that we had wanted to and it was just not possible the first time round.
We are adding 20% more cards to the set comprising:
5 more Locations taking the total from 15 to 20
2 more Obstacles taking the total from 13 to 15
2 more Discoveries taking the total from 13 to 15
1 more Barrier taking the total from 11 to 12
5 more Booby Traps taking the total from 5 to 10
6 more Foes (note three of those are multiple of existing cards to bring this set in line with Deepsorrow) taking the total number of Foes to 13 to 19 (of which 3 are multiples)
5 more Loot taking the total from 10 to 15
4 more Events taking the total from 8 to 12
This really is a substantially stretched version of the Weeping Caves that will add more variety to all your adventures.
One of the joys of creating the Enhanced Edition is the inclusion of Thuban Asharat (another Boss type Foe). We will be tweaking one of the original Adventures to introduce Thuban. For now you can have a glimpse at Thuban in all his drooling glory. I wouldn't linger too long though, it tends not to work out well for reluctant heroes unless they are well prepared for the fight!
Please note I hope to have a new Location to share with you tomorrow if possible, the artists are working on it just now.
What does this mean for my pledge?
Newcomer & All In pledges - the box will be tweaked to show it as 'Enhanced Edition' and the new content included in the box.
Quest & New Content pledges - the content described above (excluding the box) will be added to your pledges.
For those that are backing the new Upgrade Kit Add On we released in the past Update we will also add the cards to that package for you so that you benefit from the new content.
The MSRP of this additional content is £10 thank you for helping us deliver it!
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A4 format Core Rulebook
The admins at BGG have now approved the file being uploaded. You can find the link here:
Note the book reflects the V3 state of play and will be common to all Core Sets (Weeping Caves, Great Sewers, Deepsorrow). It remains subject to change and final proofreading.
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Tabletopia Link
Any Tabletopia fans out there?
The wonderful guys at Tabletopia have now created the playable tutorial for you to try:
If you do play it and enjoy it please can you help share it on social media etc. where possible? The Tabletopia creators have asked if we can help get the word out for them which of course is the least we can do to help fellow gamers follow their passion.
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Final Push
The next Stretch Goal is the previously announced £80k Meeting the Rasni Goal. This will add a further 4x Loot and 1x Event to the Novice Booster 2 set.
We are also excited to reveal a number of other Stretch Goals to try and stretch the game as much as possible in the remaining hours of the campaign.
£85k 2 more standalone adventures will be added to the Deepsorrow set, taking the total number of added Scenarios to 6 giving an additional 6-9 hours of gameplay.
£90k To the Wrathlands the final part of the prelude story showing the journey of the Initiate to Deepsorrow. 4 more Loot and 1x Event to add to the Novice Booster 2 set.
That's all for now folks - it has been a huge day for the campaign. I'm off to the campsite to recharge the batteries for tomorrow.
Best wishes to you all.
The IG Team
900 backers. 2 New Add Ons!
over 3 years ago
– Wed, Dec 07, 2022 at 12:51:14 AM
Hello Adventurers!
Once again, we would like to thank each and every one of you for your support in this quest! We wouldn't have gone so far without you!
We have been listening to what you have been requesting and we have been trying to figure out what the best way would be to bring you what you want. Without further ado, we are happy to announce two new Add Ons! Those will be added in the campaign, as well as the pledge manager.
Add On #1:Novice Set Upgrade Kit (note we have no product image as explained below)
Price £12 plus £7 shipping
A number of you have indicated an interest in an Add On that would upgrade the first printing Weeping Caves and Great Sewers sets with the key component upgrades from the new second printing sets.
Please note if you are backing either the Newcomer Pledge or All In pledge you do not need this Add On, it is already included in the set you will receive. If you are backing the Quest or New Content pledge you do not need this Add on, the components will be added to your pledge for free.
It has taken us a few days to bottom out the make up of this Add On as we needed to explore the art of the possible with Whatz as well as how we could ship this to people that want it.
Before I go any further let me show you a diagram of the V2 (current state) Deepsorrow punchboards. These are not identical to, but are a good indicator of, what the new Caves and Sewers punchboards will look like (note we do not have the final make up of those punchboards because we have not closed the Stretch Goals yet).
These punchboards will not fit into the original Caves and Sewers boxes, however when you punch the contents they will.
The diagram below shows you the reverse of the Deepsorrow Punchboards. I have called out those things that I think show the differences compared to the original sets. The Punchboards for the reprinted Caves and Sewers will be in a similar style but we will remove tokens you don't need (e.g. Shock tokens) and change the Hero and Creature tokens to match those sets specifically.
The Contents of this Add On will therefore be:
A white tuck box (roughly A4 sized) with a barcode on it.
2x Readiness tracker Double poker cards
2x Punchboards from the Weeping Caves reprint
2x Punchboards from the Great Sewers reprint
2 replacement cards for the Caves and Sewers that have slight errors in them
2x replacement Adventures for the Weeping Caves set
PDFs of the Core Rulebook
If we unlock it we will also include all of the cards from the Weeping Caves Enhanced Edition (to be outlined in the £75k Unlock Update if we reach it, MSRP £10).
Please note we have included lower shipping with this Add-On to try and keep costs a low as possible. By way of illustration, the cost for us to get this product from China to the US and then from a fulfilment house in the US to an address in the US will be about $18USD. The costs are very similar from other hubs.
If backers want to purchase this Add-On plus any other item we will need to apply the normal shipping rates shown in the Campaign. Shipping will be collected via the pledge manager after the campaign closes.
Add On #2:Novice BoosterSet 3 - The Cryptic Collection
price £15 no additional shipping if added to Newcomer, Quest, New Content or All In Quest
This is a bundle of cool content we want to offer up which we think some of you may find interesting. These are not essential to play the game, but they offer new choices to try out.
The Novice Booster Set 3 is a collection of unusual objects (trying not to use a defined game term we already have) that comprises the following:
Mysterious Potions: 6 Flasks + 6 Potion Recipes
This includes a new mechanic where you can find the Flasks and then identify them during Camp Actions to unlock one off Potions. Note you do not need the Potions & Preps Expansion to use these Potions, but if you have it then you can find any of those Potions with this mechanic.
Knowledge of Deepsorrow: 6 Tomes + 12 Mini poker Knowledge cards
This includes a new mechanic where you can find the Tomes and then learn more about Deepsorrow from them.
MagicalRemnants: 6 Curios + 6 PreparationRecipes
This includes a new mechanic where you can find the Curios and then identify them during Camp Actions to unlock one off use Preparations. Note you do not need the Potions & Preps Expansion to use these Potions, but if you have it then you can find any of the Preparations with this mechanic.
Knowledge of Caves& Sewers: 24 Mini poker Knowledge cards
This includes a new mechanic where you can find the 6 Tomes (noted above) and then learn more about the Caves and Sewers.
So in summary that is 6 Flasks, 6 Tomes, 6 Curios as new Item card types. 6 Potions and 6 Preparation cards. 36 Mini poker Knowledge cards.
How do I get the add ons?
If you like either of the add ons, then you can get them by either:
Click on the "manage your pledge" option, then change the amount to include the add on(s) that you like. In this case you will have to choose the add ons during the Pledge Manager OR
Go to the add-ons section on the left hand side of the page, and get the add on(s) by following the instructions of the page.
Once again we would like to thank you for your support! Spread the word for the new Legends Untold installment and let's push in the final 48hrs of the campaign to unlock even more Stretch Goals!
£70k - To Gnimshkenka
over 3 years ago
– Fri, Dec 02, 2022 at 10:29:06 PM
Well well,
after plateauing for ages in the 60s we are now firmly into the 70s - any other prog rock fans out there?
Awesome stuff (groovy even)!
We are so grateful for everybody that has joined us on the journey. We continue to take your feedback on the page, please keep it coming, it helps us build a better experience for everyone.
£70k unlock
For now I can confirm that we are adding four new Loot Cards and a new Event (Glowing Rocks) into the Novice Booster 2 set which everyone will be able to use to expand your adventures further.
I'd like to do a little bit of world building here (as it helps explains the cards) and we will cover the story in an update over the weekend.
Mor Nadar is a world of many peoples, often these are nods to historic cultures who live anachronistically alongside the many fictional cultures and species of the realms.
The Arsaidh are an ancient culture of man who roamed Mor Nadar long before the current era. We introduced their concept in the original campaign and so those that are familiar with the first kickstarter will have seen this image before. However for some of you this will be new:
The concept art gives you an idea of what the Arsaidh look like if you encounter them today. The intent is that if we are able to make the Apprentice Rank content you would encounter an undead civil war taking place in the Ancient Crypts near the great city of Dun Mordhain that you are trying to enter. The Celti are the predominant culture in the lands to the west of Dun Mordhain with extensive tribes stretching over much of the northern continent known as the Cold Lands.
To help with orientation, here is a small part of the map of Central Mor Nadar. If you look for the huge red Capital City marker in the Middle you can see Dun Mordhain (roughly on a latitude with London in our world). This is the city you are trying to flee to in the original Caves and Sewers sets.
The Arsaidh once inhabited most of the lands shown here but centuries ago they disappeared and were replaced by the Celti peoples. The Celti live in several massive realms beyond this small excerpt but here we can see Na Glinn (The Glens) and Ridaru (Royal Oaks) which are in turn inhabited by countless Celti tribes (often an homage to the iron age tribes of northern Europe).
Note the Druid from the original Druid Booster set (now part of Novice Booster Set 1) is from the Celti culture, and has remained our most popular hero at every convention we have attended to date:
There is a further undead culture known as the Dia Fir (God Men) who predate even the Arsaidh. These were great chieftains buried with their animals who arise from time to time and wield incredible power. I am mentioning this here as a specific nod to one of our backers Peter who has been with us since day 1 and is completely obsessed with Liches.
So that you can see how the sets from the Caves and Sewers interact with the planned sets for Apprentice Rank please see the Environments diagram below. Note Deepsorrow is many thousands of miles away from here - there is good reason for this (the Cinematic Campaign is global in nature) and we will explain how they interact in due course.
Why are you telling us all this Kev?
My hope is that now that you know a bit more about who the Arsaidh are you will be able to follow the story more easily in Deepsorrow and also understand why finding an item with the Arsaidh keyword on it is an exciting thing. So that 'Arsaidh Helm' you found? Well it probably should be handled with care because it's definitely old. Also who knows, maybe Peter finally gets to pretend he's a Lich - or was heroically devoured by one!
And what of the other cultures we mention? We hope to be able to continue the growth in the project and get to the Rasni culture soon. For now I have probably done enough world building and so I will be brief. The Rasni are not a lost culture, they are very much present in Mor Nadar, they believe in portents and are fond of gazing at the sky. The butterfly holds a special place in their culture, for when a butterfly flaps her wings nobody is quite sure what has happened somewhere else in the world. We're excited to share the Rasni Butterfly Shield with you folks. You'll note you can't use a 2H weapon with it (for all those fans of the big weapons). We hope you have a lot of fun with it. You can use it to help mitigate a bad result but oh my when that butterfly glows, it really is charming ;)
Upgrade packnews (as an Add-on)
Thanks for all the responses! It looks like most of you would be happy with the components printed and a pdf for the rules. Also, I agree with the sentiment that once you have learned the game you won't need the training scenario assets if we are trying to keep this to the bare essentials. Note the punchboards are A4 but I had an idea this morning that we could get them punched at Whatz and bagged so that the package size would only be A5 sized (the size of the Combat Aid).
However, the preliminary investigations I made on shipping even this much smaller package were not encouraging. All of the shipping vendors I tried were looking for a sum in excess of £25 per package (even the small one) to airmail it from China directly to you. This seems a very expensive way of doing this when we could have them sent via the sea along with the rest of the published materials and keep the costs down accordingly. I will keep trying but I think a Wave 1 shipping solution for the upgrade pack would be prohibitively expensive because of the shipping costs.
Next Steps?
We will keep sharing the news about the page (we saw a material increase today and are very grateful for it).
We will continue to improve the page so that it becomes more user friendly (new Stretch Goal image is under construction).
We will keep working with Whatz to see what we can do for you on the Upgrade pack Add-On.
I will get the associated Lore for Gnimshkenka up over the next few days (we have been flat out trying to improve the page and stretch the campaign for everyone's benefit).
Please keep the suggestions coming, we are getting traction! We really hope we can get to the £75k number soon. It is a massive double unlock and will make the Enhanced Edition of the Weeping Caves become a reality for the first time!
Cheers
Kev
IG
Tabletop Simulator Training Scenario Live, Discord, Rulebook news, Upgrade packs
over 3 years ago
– Fri, Dec 02, 2022 at 12:43:48 PM
Hi folks,
A quick one today.
Tabletop Simulator Training Scenario
I'm excited to share the Training Scenario on Tabletop Simulator with you. Full credit to Morgan @ Jovial for creating this. If you have Tabletop Simulator click on the link, it will add it to your subscriptions, you will then find the game added in the Workshop section when you open Tabletop Simulator.
Please note this is the digital version of the yellow tab 'Learn to Play' Adventure you may have seen on my videos before and is included in the new sets.
Many of you have also downloaded this from the BGG site here:
In addition to the BGG community and the Facebook community a number of people are now interacting on Discord. If you want to join in the link is here:
The file has now been uploaded to BGG. When it has been approved we will share the link for you all.
Upgrade packs
We are trying to resolve something that a few of you have raised. When we launched the Kickstarter we were always really clear we wanted to give away a free upgrade pack with Deepsorrow which would give you the Readiness Tracker, Combat Aid and combat tokens, for the Caves and Sewers plus two tweaked scenarios from the Caves. This would mean that because you would have the new books with Deepsorrow anyway you would in effect 'catch up' by having these components and your original Caves and Sewers sets would be upgraded.
We can do this fairly easily and cost effectively because we are putting the same punchboards from the Reprinted Caves and Sewers sets into the upgrade pack and we can print the Adventures accordingly. These also fit inside the Deepsorrow box so shipping it is no real additional issue because it is going to be with the Deepsorrow set.
Anyone who is starting out and purchasing the reprinted Caves set would not need the Upgrade Kit, the content is already in their set.
However we have had a few of you reach out to say that they do not wish to purchase Deepsorrow at this point but would like to purchase the Upgraded components as an add-on. We had not anticipated this!
This is where it gets complex unfortunately. Having been through it, without Deepsorrow we believe you would need the following:
1x A Core Rulebook (A4)
4x Punchboards (2 each for Caves and Sewers)
1x A4 Flowchart set
1x A4 How to Play Training Scenario (the one we have posted on BGG and Tabletop Simulator)
1x deck of yellow Training Scenario cards (the one we have posted on BGG and Tabletop Simulator)
1x A4 Sized box to ship it in
Creating this bespoke set would involve us printing these components and then assembling them at the Factory. We are usually required to have a minimum print run of 1,000 units to produce anything. We would then need to ship these to a fulfilment hub and then send them onwards via local mail.
Our concern is that the cost of producing these will be prohibitive unless there is sufficient demand (the factory can assemble a minimum thousand units on any production run).
We have not got to pricing this yet. It would however help us a lot to understand the volume of demand for this product. Please can anyone who may want to purchase this Upgrade Set (subject to pricing of course) comment in response to this update. We can use that to gauge demand.
If there is only limited demand we will do what we can to perhaps hand assemble a few of the packs rather than do a whole production run.
In the meantime, thanks for all the support we have received to date. We've managed to unlock a lot of additional value with the pledges already. We are working hard to deliver more as we enter the final week.
